Comments on: Safari Isn’t the Beauty That Apple Likes To Claim http://devhints.wordpress.com/2007/03/09/safari-isnt-the-beauty-that-apple-likes-to-claim/ Tips and Hints for Website Developers Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:30:35 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: trucex http://devhints.wordpress.com/2007/03/09/safari-isnt-the-beauty-that-apple-likes-to-claim/#comment-7 trucex Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:19:24 +0000 http://devhints.wordpress.com/2007/03/09/safari-isnt-the-beauty-that-apple-likes-to-claim/#comment-7 Mmm...this is coming from someone whose website is a complete mess. How typical. Oh so I have to tell Safari to do what is expected of it? I'm all for AI, but I don't think I should have to train a browser that the tab key should move focus to the next element. It's been around for a while...it's just Apple being stubborn about not liking selection rectangles appearing on their pretty little child that's a moron. Safari doesn't have anything to manage cookies. Safari doesn't let me write my own scripts to execute on websites that match an expression. Safari doesn't let me modify global styles through a CSS stylesheet. Safari doesn't give me the ability to resize my browser window to specific dimensions for testing websites. Safari doesn't let me outline specific elements for debugging HTML. Safari doesn't let me swap between different sets of cookies. Safari doesn't let me see my AdSense earnings updated all day and night. Safari doesn't show me the time a website took to load. Safari doesn't let me snap a screenshot of the entire website. Safari doesn't update itself. I could go on all day. Safari doesn't let me use a lot of standard JavaScript. In fact, until Safari 3, WebKit/AppleWebKit would screw up all over the place on Google Docs. The way Safari handles various padding and margin situations with float is incorrect, also (Safari 2, I'm not sure of 3). Safari has tabs, but they're not enabled by default. IE 7 has tabs, and they actually work with the keyboard (ctrl+tab) unlike Safari's. You say you've used Firefox and Opera and Safari is better. Since better is relative to your usage, I'm assuming you're just another brat that can't stand to have something look a little bit off so that it is functional...like handles on the doors of cars. Sure, safari looks nice and clean, but all that "clutter" has immense functionality. PS: Safari has "plug-ins" instead of extensions. Apparently you're another amateur that doesn't realize exactly how his browser works. Mmm…this is coming from someone whose website is a complete mess. How typical.

Oh so I have to tell Safari to do what is expected of it? I’m all for AI, but I don’t think I should have to train a browser that the tab key should move focus to the next element. It’s been around for a while…it’s just Apple being stubborn about not liking selection rectangles appearing on their pretty little child that’s a moron.

Safari doesn’t have anything to manage cookies. Safari doesn’t let me write my own scripts to execute on websites that match an expression. Safari doesn’t let me modify global styles through a CSS stylesheet. Safari doesn’t give me the ability to resize my browser window to specific dimensions for testing websites. Safari doesn’t let me outline specific elements for debugging HTML. Safari doesn’t let me swap between different sets of cookies. Safari doesn’t let me see my AdSense earnings updated all day and night. Safari doesn’t show me the time a website took to load. Safari doesn’t let me snap a screenshot of the entire website. Safari doesn’t update itself. I could go on all day.

Safari doesn’t let me use a lot of standard JavaScript. In fact, until Safari 3, WebKit/AppleWebKit would screw up all over the place on Google Docs. The way Safari handles various padding and margin situations with float is incorrect, also (Safari 2, I’m not sure of 3).

Safari has tabs, but they’re not enabled by default. IE 7 has tabs, and they actually work with the keyboard (ctrl+tab) unlike Safari’s.

You say you’ve used Firefox and Opera and Safari is better. Since better is relative to your usage, I’m assuming you’re just another brat that can’t stand to have something look a little bit off so that it is functional…like handles on the doors of cars. Sure, safari looks nice and clean, but all that “clutter” has immense functionality.

PS: Safari has “plug-ins” instead of extensions. Apparently you’re another amateur that doesn’t realize exactly how his browser works.

]]> By: Supernite http://devhints.wordpress.com/2007/03/09/safari-isnt-the-beauty-that-apple-likes-to-claim/#comment-6 Supernite Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:49:42 +0000 http://devhints.wordpress.com/2007/03/09/safari-isnt-the-beauty-that-apple-likes-to-claim/#comment-6 Safari works better with CSS than Firefox. Two words: inline-block. Tab doesn't select links because you haven't told it to. Right now, I just went down the whole page, link by link. If you don't like the mouse, get a new one. Mine cost me £5, and it works just fine. Website design is easy as hell in Safari. I think you might be confused with IE, here. It does have tabs. You wanna find those in Internet Explorer? It doesn't have extensions. Good. Now, I don't have to waste my time searching for an added extra that does something Firefox probably should have done in the first place. You need to actually use the damn thing. I've gone through Firefox, Camino, Opera, SeaMonkey, and OmniWeb, and Safari is still better. Safari works better with CSS than Firefox. Two words: inline-block.
Tab doesn’t select links because you haven’t told it to. Right now, I just went down the whole page, link by link.
If you don’t like the mouse, get a new one. Mine cost me £5, and it works just fine.
Website design is easy as hell in Safari. I think you might be confused with IE, here.
It does have tabs. You wanna find those in Internet Explorer?
It doesn’t have extensions. Good. Now, I don’t have to waste my time searching for an added extra that does something Firefox probably should have done in the first place.

You need to actually use the damn thing. I’ve gone through Firefox, Camino, Opera, SeaMonkey, and OmniWeb, and Safari is still better.

]]> By: Safari 3 Windows Review, Benchmark by Elliott Back http://devhints.wordpress.com/2007/03/09/safari-isnt-the-beauty-that-apple-likes-to-claim/#comment-5 Safari 3 Windows Review, Benchmark by Elliott Back Tue, 12 Jun 2007 01:57:50 +0000 http://devhints.wordpress.com/2007/03/09/safari-isnt-the-beauty-that-apple-likes-to-claim/#comment-5 [...] become used to using in IE/FF, and use tons of my RAM main memory up. No one sums it up better than Dev Hints who notes that “Safari Isn’t the Beauty That Apple Likes To Claim.” It’s not [...] [...] become used to using in IE/FF, and use tons of my RAM main memory up. No one sums it up better than Dev Hints who notes that “Safari Isn’t the Beauty That Apple Likes To Claim.” It’s not [...]

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